Thread: Conservative bunker

This goes out to all conservatives, all 4 of you. I dont have television so I've never seen this guy before. What do you think?

bill Reilly is equal to glenn beck they both spread fear, to mostly the elderly, to get people to support there political ideology, these people are just as dangerous as any religious organization and if they had there way this nation would be a theocracy

... you know Glenn Beck is Mormon...

and Bill OReilly is kind of a tool. I mean, hes right on a lot of things but I cant listen to either one of those guys talk about religion. As conservative as I am, I think organized religion is bad. I also think abortion is good, pot should be legalized, Muslims should be watched by the government and illegals should be thrown out along with their babies.

Originally Posted by Crusher

... you know Glenn Beck is Mormon...

and Bill OReilly is kind of a tool. I mean, hes right on a lot of things but I cant listen to either one of those guys talk about religion. As conservative as I am, I think organized religion is bad. I also think abortion is good, pot should be legalized, Muslims should be watched by the government and illegals should be thrown out along with their babies.

You just think its bad cause you dont own any. The guy made me laugh several times, I shall give him a chance.

Originally Posted by Crusher

... you know Glenn Beck is Mormon...

and Bill OReilly is kind of a tool. I mean, hes right on a lot of things but I cant listen to either one of those guys talk about religion. As conservative as I am, I think organized religion is bad. I also think abortion is good, pot should be legalized, Muslims should be watched by the government and illegals should be thrown out along with their babies.

yea i know beck is a mormon and he attributes his success to his being a mormon, which is rigoddamndiculous

I think organized religion is bad. I also think abortion is good, pot should be legalized, Muslims should be watched by the government and illegals should be thrown out along with their babies.

while i can agree with you on the first couple of points, are you saying Muslims should be watched more than people of other religions? if you are just going on terrorism and the fear mongering people spouting off about muslims i would have to say timmothy mcveigh was a christian, so should cristians be watched by the gov? i'm curious why you dislike illegals, (minus tranny from El Armpito, i think we can all agree he should be deported back to his 4th pit of hell) i'm still a firm believer in immigration into this country, immigrants do the jobs that americans think they are too good for, and most of the time they do these jobs to provide a better life for their families. immigrants can shovel my drive way any day and i'll gladly pay them $10 to do it to

Originally Posted by trav

while i can agree with you on the first couple of points, are you saying Muslims should be watched more than people of other religions? if you are just going on terrorism and the fear mongering people spouting off about muslims i would have to say timmothy mcveigh was a christian, so should cristians be watched by the gov? i'm curious why you dislike illegals, (minus tranny from El Armpito, i think we can all agree he should be deported back to his 4th pit of hell) i'm still a firm believer in immigration into this country, immigrants do the jobs that americans think they are too good for, and most of the time they do these jobs to provide a better life for their families. immigrants can shovel my drive way any day and i'll gladly pay them $10 to do it to

I really hate the argument that "So and so was a Christian so we should hate all Christians" The difference is Timothy McVeigh did not kill in the name of Christianity. Muslims are bred to kill in the name of Islam. Like part of Christian law is "thou shall not kill", part of Muslim, or Sharia Law, is "kill the infidel"- unless you are Muslim, you are the infidel. Theres no getting around that.

Im all for immigration into this country. As long as the emmigrant is documented and has to pay taxes just like everybody else. They take our jobs. Granted, illegals take mostly construction, food prep and farm labor jobs- I cant get any of those because theyre are already filled. Or most likely to be filled by someone not as skilled as I am, because they are willing to work for lower wages. They get welfare, food stamps, financial aid for schooling, free medical care... and I have to pay for that.
If you come to our country because its better than yours, why cant you respect our laws? My family first came to America because they were forced into the Soviet army. They came here and they registered and lived a shit life (with no welfare) and worked their way into society. They learned the language. Illegals have no reason to learn the language or even be productive. They send the money they earn back to their country of origin- instead of putting it back into the American economy. They cost this country over 100 BILLION dollars a year. Thats a tenth of the national deficit. Why dont you pay your neighbors kid 10 bucks to shovel your drive way. At least youll eventually get it back that way.

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Muslims are bred to kill in the name of Islam. Like part of Christian law is "thou shall not kill", part of Muslim, or Sharia Law, is "kill the infidel"- unless you are Muslim, you are the infidel. Theres no getting around that.

muslims in general are not breed to kill infidels, extremest muslims are breed to kill infidels, but i have personally worked with a few musilms and as far as i could tell they were as american as you or i. it's a fallacy to say that because some muslims are extremest that all muslims are extremest. and if you want to talk biblical passages:

-Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
-Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
-Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

i could post these all day but i'm sure you get the point. there are many instances through history where all religions have killed in the name of their particular god and to single out one religion over another is hateful and bigoted, but hey lots of americans are perfectly happy being ignorant bigoted fucks, might as well get on the "i hate muslims" bandwagon, come on crusher i thought you were better that that

i'll address the immigration thing later, i need to look at some #'s since you threw out the 100billion dollar well-fare thing

Dont confuse the word of prophets and followers (the bible) with the word of Allah (Sharia law)
The Christian God didnt write the Bible where Sharia Law is the word of the Islamic god.
You obviously know this as you referenced the authors of each of those statements.
God gave Christians the 10 Commandments, Allah gave Muslims Sharia Law.

All Christians must obey the commandments just as all Muslims must obey Sharia law. Those who do not follow the laws of God (Christian or Muslim) are bad (Christians or Muslims)

Listen to any Muslim cleric speak. I recently posted a video of one speaking and saying just what Ive said to you. Its not about radicals or extremists. Its about religious people.


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I dont hate Muslims. Muslims hate me.

As far as Christians killing people of other religions- the Crusades where about retaking Holy Land that were taken from us (and the Jews) by Muslims. Christians, of course, also killed Pagans. We dont do this any more because we have intellectually and socially evolved. Muslims have not, they still want to kill people because they dont share the same beliefs.

And another thing, I am not saying one religion is better than another. I think all /organized/ religion is bad. If Muslims could worship quietly and on their own without trying to impose their beliefs on someone else, the same with Christians and Jehovas Witnesses etc, the world would be a better place. Did you ever notice that Jews wont try to convert you? Its all by blood. Either you are or you arent.

IN FACT
Its is part of Sharia Law that a non-Muslim is not allowed to even try to convert a Muslim or even speak to him about another religion.

Israel is part of the Holy Lands that were promised to both Christians and Jews.