Buffalo Bill/Jamie GumbIt puts the lotion in the basket
Watch the video on this site, I can't embed it here. Check out the trail left by the truck.
Why Russians die in horrible accidents all the time is beyond me.
Last edited by Bester; 08-17-2011 at 07:56 PM.
Maybe its something to do with the excessive amount of vodka your people consume.Originally Posted by Bester
But before you reply Bester, don't try to deny it, its a well known stereotype which we all believe to be true, so don't shit on our beliefs.
On an unrelated note heres a Kalashnikov shaped vodka bottle.
Last edited by GimmeJager; 08-17-2011 at 10:18 PM.
I'm a friendly fascist and a tyrant you should trust.
It's not a stereotype, it's a national trait/tradition. You thought it was a stereotype?
Taters!!
I think its the mentality. They are fatalists and pessimists. They think that what ever they do the result is shit. So they dont do anything properly (if they even bother to do anything). They drink and drive all the time (remember the S&W episode where drunken policeman drove over a girl). Their driving is bad anyway. Their work quality is complete crap (I know - there are lot of Russian construction workers in Finland - they are notorious). Russian attitude towards life is basically that "we are Russians, we are made to suffer. We had the gulags and Stalin. Now we have more money and better government but everything is still shit and then you die"
Dostoyevski wrote something like "No nation suffers so nobly as the Russians" (I think there even is a joke about that). And this could be their life motto. They think that suffering makes them better people. So they even seek to suffer and get into situations that cause them pain. Its written in their blood.
Buffalo Bill/Jamie GumbIt puts the lotion in the basket
All countries had gulags, look up French Penal Colonies, or see how Oscar Wilde almost died after 5 years of British prisons... In USSR gulags, the prisoner death rate was the same as the civilian death rate, which means nobody killed them by hard work. Which wasn't the case in France or Britain... And besides, why would you want to pay for somebody who's murdered people or stole 5 years of your payroll or raped a child? They should not only feed themselves in prison, but they should pay back for their crimes to society by working. So tell me, what's wrong with gulags, huh?
And as for Stalin, don't start me on that... Stalin wasn't the one who organized the great purge, Yezhov did, and he was executed for that a year later. It's a common mistake to think that Stalin had undivided power. There was a system not different from what we have today, laws couldn't be just passed because Stalin wished so, he didn't have such authority.
People who organized the revolution, they only knew how to destroy, didn't know how to build. It often happens after revolutions, look up the French revolution and their surges of Terror. Political elite organized repressions, and Stalin was the one who managed to stop the madness and ordered executing those who organized all this.
And nowadays, if you ask a random person, "how many people were executed in USSR", you're gonna hear 40-60 million? Thanks to anti-communist, cold war propaganda... The truth is, 642.980 people were condemned to death by Troikas without trial in '37 and '38, 3.134.400 were condemned to do time in prison... that's repressions and that's the number given by Rudenko, confirmed by Khrushchev and then by all instances. How many of them were innocent, I don't know, but that's such a small portion of the population compared to what other countries suffered. Here:
USSR - number of executions during repressions of 1937-1938 compared to the total number of population: 0,38%
SPAIN - number of executions during the Civil War repressions of 1936-1939 compared to the total number of population: 1,07 - 1,3 %
They washed themselves in their own blood during Franco repressions, they're still digging up graves.
Chili - number of executions during the Pinochet repressions of 1973 compared to the total number of population: 0,3 - 0,7 %
And 400.000 people were tortured.
Indonesia - number of executions during the Suharto revolution repressions of 1965 compared to the total number of population: 0,52 - 1,04 %
South Korea - the beginning of the war repressions of 1950 - 1,1 %
No they don't. 86% of USSR, if I remember correctly, voted to keep USSR, Yeltsin ignored the national referendum and destroyed USSR anyway. It's amazing how American propaganda got to everyone in the West, I mean really really everyone. Only Russians know their own history... and not even all of them.
I don't like assaulting people with history lessons, but I can't help it.
Last edited by Bester; 08-19-2011 at 06:27 AM.
I did not say that there is something wrong with gulags. I think that criminals should be punished. But especially in Russian literature gulags are often seen as some kind of gods punishment to Russian people, and not as a place to punish criminals.
Well I guess you know about this more than I do.
You say its propaganda, but there are many people who say those figures are correct (and they are not all from USA). There are many interpretations and views about almost every subject in history. We all believe the one we want.And nowadays, if you ask a random person, "how many people were executed in USSR", you're gonna hear 40-60 million? Thanks to anti-communist, cold war propaganda...
I claim that Russians do not know their own history very well. The truth I mean. For example in Russian schoolbooks they still teach that Finland started the winter war in 1939. The truth is that Russia framed an artillery attack so that they could blame Finland for breaking a treatyOnly Russians know their own history... and not even all of them.
Shelling of Mainila - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This may also interest you.
Battle of Raate Road - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well you certainly know what you are talking about so keep 'em comingI don't like assaulting people with history lessons, but I can't help it.
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